Vivian, thanks for your post. I too am a Christian, who sometimes struggles
with Religion. Though some might find it
ironic to be writing about God for a scientific writing course, or to be a
scientist with faith in God, I do not believe these things are inherently contradictory. I wanted to briefly address the issue you
brought up in your third paragraph about homosexuality and Christianity. I do not intend to preach, but to share the
basis for my thoughts, though I will reference the Bible a bit.
For sure, the Bible can be confusing and is interpreted in many ways. I find Jesus’ teachings about a few things to be fairly clear. In Matthew, He states that the second greatest commandment, behind loving God wholly, is to “‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” To me, this declaration, alone, strongly points towards how Christian’s should respond to homosexuality—namely, to love homosexuals like one would anyone else, but I will expound on this understanding with a few more references.
I love the Bible’s use of metaphor. There is one particularly intriguing line which I find applicable to the debate about homosexuality. Jesus is addressing the infamous Pharisees: “You strain out a gnat yet swallow a camel!” Here, again in Matthew, He addresses their penchant for following law, while forgetting that which is most important—justice, mercy, and faithfulness. Not to mention, loving your neighbor. I believe this parallels how many modern day Christians address homosexuality; they believe it is wrong, and so condemn and often persecute those who are homosexual. In doing so, they too swallow the camel—they fail to love their neighbor.
Commonly, I am told by more ‘reasonable’ Christians that one should hate the sin, not the sinner. While this belief may seem more amiable, I believe it is equally misguided. “Do not judge so that you will not be judged…Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own?” Here is another metaphor from Matthew, which I appreciate. I do not believe homosexuality is a sin, but even if it were, it is not right for me to judge gays. And I have plenty of logs in my own eyes which need removing before I dissect the eyes of others.
Yes, I believe society needs laws, penalties, and judgments. And yes, absolutely, this becomes a complicated issue when considering how to address law and order. Should I support laws against murder? Clearly. Some others are less obvious, but that the legality of gay marriage—and by proxy, homosexuality itself—persists as one of the most dominant political debates in America? That so many Christians see banning gay marriage as one of their most important missions? I am astounded. And I want to voice my support for gays and gay Christians, since I know this is a Christian voice not often heard.
For sure, the Bible can be confusing and is interpreted in many ways. I find Jesus’ teachings about a few things to be fairly clear. In Matthew, He states that the second greatest commandment, behind loving God wholly, is to “‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” To me, this declaration, alone, strongly points towards how Christian’s should respond to homosexuality—namely, to love homosexuals like one would anyone else, but I will expound on this understanding with a few more references.
I love the Bible’s use of metaphor. There is one particularly intriguing line which I find applicable to the debate about homosexuality. Jesus is addressing the infamous Pharisees: “You strain out a gnat yet swallow a camel!” Here, again in Matthew, He addresses their penchant for following law, while forgetting that which is most important—justice, mercy, and faithfulness. Not to mention, loving your neighbor. I believe this parallels how many modern day Christians address homosexuality; they believe it is wrong, and so condemn and often persecute those who are homosexual. In doing so, they too swallow the camel—they fail to love their neighbor.
Commonly, I am told by more ‘reasonable’ Christians that one should hate the sin, not the sinner. While this belief may seem more amiable, I believe it is equally misguided. “Do not judge so that you will not be judged…Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own?” Here is another metaphor from Matthew, which I appreciate. I do not believe homosexuality is a sin, but even if it were, it is not right for me to judge gays. And I have plenty of logs in my own eyes which need removing before I dissect the eyes of others.
Yes, I believe society needs laws, penalties, and judgments. And yes, absolutely, this becomes a complicated issue when considering how to address law and order. Should I support laws against murder? Clearly. Some others are less obvious, but that the legality of gay marriage—and by proxy, homosexuality itself—persists as one of the most dominant political debates in America? That so many Christians see banning gay marriage as one of their most important missions? I am astounded. And I want to voice my support for gays and gay Christians, since I know this is a Christian voice not often heard.
Being Catholic, I find it amazing that some of the same people that taught you to love thy neighbor as you love yourself in Sunday school when you were little will strongly oppose gay marriage. The only conclusion I can come up with other than far too many people are hypocrites, is maybe a lot of these people have some extreme self-loathing issues.
ReplyDeleteHypocrite, a strong word. What kind of person is hypocrite? I know it is not a good judgement for a person. And I spent a long time on distinguishing hypocrite from nice persons. Guess what, it is really hard to make it. Under some situations, the words coming from your mouth are not from your heart. Is that one of biomarkers of hypocrite? Sometimes, guys need tell some white lies, are they hypocrite? Trying to nice, is that hypocrite?
ReplyDeleteWhen I'm inputting words here, maybe I got the answers. Telling others what they want to hear, trying to be nice, and white lies, all of them are like a knife. Murders pick it to kill their targets. Nice persons use it to cook for their lovers and family. Maybe hypocrites are murders inside but masked nice persons??? Umm, I don't know. The only thing is I'm sure now is that is not knife's fault. Sorry, Jared, I paid more attention on hypocrte thing, instead of gay issue. :)
ReplyDeleteGay marriage, or even any LGBT issue, was not be emphasized in my country until these years. In my childhood years, none stood out to oppose same-sex marriage; however, seldom of people were willing to support homosexualities to strive for their rights, neither. Most people just ignored these issues or even didn’t realize them. When I first knew some of my close friends are homosexualities, I simply felt it’s nothing wrong with loving a person with the same physical sexuality. Love is love, regardless of race, age, or wealth. I don’t understand why one whom loves another with the same sexuality cannot be treated as other people. However, same-sex marriage is still without legality in my country and most of the world, while some people still think “marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman.” Therefore, I really appreciated that President Obama announced he supports same-sex marriage few weeks ago. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/obama-same-sex-marriage/?hpt=hp_t1 I hope this announcement can bring us some changes and let homosexualities receive respect equal to others do.
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ReplyDeleteWhen talking about marriage, what marriage stands for comes into my mind at first. I googled and find that marriage is a social union or legal contract between people called spouses that creates kinship.See,there is no limitation of gender, wealth, age, background or nationality. Thus, gays can get married as long as they love with each other and create kinship and are looking forward to building a family.
ReplyDeleteBut why are there still lots of obstacles on their marriage road? I guess, gays issue always allude to HIV risk,mental diseases, and drugs what already have been deeply rooted in many many persons' minds.
To some extent, it is true and we can't ignore that. However, inhibition of gay marriage is not the key to deal with tough problems. Conversely, I think being supportive to gay marriage may can help to do it.
Constraint force of legal contract may decrease gay promiscuity, in turn reduce HIV spread. Building a family also may affect playboy attitude of gay since they wanna to present a good model for their kids, in turn self-control finally is emerged from it. And the most important point is that only love can cure mental disease, if they have. I guess, Mike and Jared would not doubt that after getting married, love in both lovers' hearts are increasing day by day.
Thus,I wanna say, gay marriage, go ahead.
I do not know much about Christian religion or don't want to comment anything about it. I just believe any religion asks people to love others. So why not loving a guy by another guy? Cummon, we are science people and we know all is signalling pathways and hormones that trigger our emotions.
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With my full respect to all of you and to the Christianity. Are you willing to do it? and if somebody refers to you as "homosexual", are you going to accept it?
For me, it is NO NO. So, I'll not accept it to others as I love them as I love myself.
I don't want to take it to the religious level as mine is difference. But still we have a similar role which says" Love good things to your brother as you love them for yourself" and brothers refers to everyone.
Jared, Yuan, Kun-Po, and everyone,
ReplyDeleteThese are some really thoughtful posts. I completely agree. I don't really have much to add, but raised as Catholic myself it really saddens me how much of an issue the Church makes out of gay marriage. Marriage has a unique position in American society as both a legal contract and (in most cases)a religious covenant. If a religion doesn't want to recognize gay marriage as a valid religious covenant, it may be misguided but it's their right. But stop trying to dictate who can and can't benefit from the legal contract of marriage!
Mike,I like your last sentence. Stop trying ro dictate who can and can't benefit from the legal contract of marriage.
DeleteJerad, thanks for replying my post with a new long post! The phrases you pointed out are very helpful for me to clarify some questions long lay in my mind. However, there will always be other phrases to be pulled out from Bible by other Christians opposing gay marriage, just to let you know that you are wrong and they have Bible supporting their view as well! I don't actually remember what phrases they used to teach me when I asked them about this issue because I guess I didn't really buy it :p All I care is that we have a hamonious society and everyone get the human right they deserve!
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